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Show notes

In this episode, we talk with Sandile Hlatshwayo about working in important institutions such as the Council of Economic Advisors and the International Monetary Fund. Dr. Sandile Hlatshwayo is an IMF economist who previously served as a senior economist at the Council of Economic Advisors. She holds a PhD in Economics from UC Berkeley and works in international trade, finance, and macroeconomics. The conversation covers career paths in policy economics, day-to-day work at the CEA and IMF, the importance of mentoring, and practical advice for aspiring economists.

Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Associate Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy at the University of Virginia.

Alex Hollingsworth is an Associate Professor of Economics at the Ohio State University.

Henry Morris is our main editor. He is a student at the University of Virginia studying computer science and mathematics.

Organizations & Initiatives Mentioned:

• The Sadie Collective: Diversifying economics, especially for Black women. Annual conference in February, research symposiums, and partnerships with Brookings and the Chicago Fed. More info: 'The Sadie Collective | Developing Leaders in Economics & Related Fields
• AEA Committee on the Status of LGBTQ+ Individuals in the Economics Profession (C^2): Support and mentoring for LGBTQ+ economists. Weekly research seminars and annual mentoring conference. Committee on the Status of LGBTQ+ Individuals in the Economics Profession
• PhD Excellence Initiative (Stanford): Rigorous, fully funded pre-doc program for underrepresented students. Led by Peter Blair Henry. More info: The PhD Excellence Initiative - Welcome

Papers & Research Mentioned:

• Rising Import Tariffs, Falling Exports: When Modern Supply Chains Meet Old-Style Protectionism - American Economic Association
• The US-China Trade War and Global Reallocations - American Economic Association

Recommendations of the Week:

• Board game: Hues and Cues – a fun, color-based guessing game for families and friends.